KENNY RICE: "Now let's go back. This was before the Affliction fight, we're talking about. You come in to get your license, which is routine, and they give you a random drug test which they did, is that correct?"
JOSH BARNETT: "Right, I had my... Actually it wasn't random, they just wanted me to do it for licensing purposes. I did it the first time when I fought, me and Sylvia both did it, um when we fought on the first Affliction show, they can ask that if they want to for licensing purposes in California. And so, when I need to get re-licensed, I just had my manager (Shannon Hooper) call them up and I go, "Well what do you need me to do? What tests do you want me to take?" I mean MRIs, CT Scans, whatever, besides blood, and what else do you want me to do?
(they said) "Oh, yeah, well, can you take the Urinalysis?"
Yeah, sure. Well, do you want us to go to Quest (Diagnostics) again?
(they said) "No, actually what we want you to do is we want you to go where there is commissioners so you have to go to an event."
All right, well, when's the nearest one, when's the next one?
(they said) 'Well, there's a boxing match going on. So go up to this Holiday Inn and do it.'
KENNY RICE: First off, are you on steroids? Were you taking steroids at the time?"
JOSH BARNETT: "No. If I was taking steroids for one, why would I go take a test then? Why wouldn't I wait until the end you know if I was going to try and you know outsmart a system, why wouldn't I wait until before the fight or to take the test at the last possible second, you know, so I could give myself all the time to do whatever, why wouldn't I do that?"
KENNY RICE: "What happened with the test, though? Why was the test a failure according to the California State Athletic Commission?"
JOSH BARNETT: "Well, you know what... I have a nice body of work and I've had a great team working on some things and you know it's taking a long time partially because we've requested information and it took them actually a long time to get it to us. So we say, well you know we want this from the UCLA labs, we want this, we want that, you know it's a very long process in actually getting the information actually to us. And then as of us last time when I had my own team fly out for a hearing and they said that apparently I needed to be there in person, which I don't believe I was notified, I don't have any letter but there could be a mistake."
BAS RUTTEN: "That urine test you had to do... Could you have done that a day before? Would they have allowed you? What if you would have said, because you know you're telling us you know I could have played the system, I could have done it like a day before, would they have allowed you to do that?"
JOSH BARNETT: "Mmmhmm, yeah, normally that's the case. Normally there's like a timeline that they use and they might test you, they'll test you before the fight, like a couple of days before, and then you might be selected also to test afterwards. Now I was in a championship bout so they probably would have tested me both times. But you know when I fought in Nevada for PRIDE, I actually had to do my own testing first. I mean I had to go and find a laboratory to get them results, which is not easy, let me tell you that. And then I ended up having to do it in Nevada at the end, so I ended up taking two tests or whatever, passed them both, then took a test for them afterwards, passed that one, and then, you know, not a problem. I took a test before and after at the first Affiction in California, I didn't have any problem with those, either."
BAS RUTTEN: "There's probably they say that could a contamination of supplements, right?"
JOSH BARNETT: "That's possible. You know, it's up as high as 20% of supplements on the market are tainted and it can be as simple as this. There's a, I'm not going to name any companies that I don't want to like throw under the bus, but they had some trouble with the FDA for some of their supplements including actual anabolics in them. But even if they are too close, it's as simple as this — let's say that company makes multivitamins, it doesn't have anything to do with any sort of prohormone or anabolics, anything... if they run that multivitamin through the same hopper and it wasn't cleaned well enough that they run the same stuff that could cause you to have a positive test, that stuff can now become contaminated within the same product."